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15/12/03

Dear Sir,
Dr Baldev Kandola Jee,

Sat Sri Akal to you and 5abi team,

We take this opportunity to wish you all a VERY HAPPY AND prosperous NEW YEAR - 2004.

Gurpreet Singh and all
INDBATT-III(United Nations Mission Ethiopia & Eritrea)
15th SIKH LIGHT INFANTRY

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15/12/03

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15/12/03

Harbir Singh Bhanwar's article "Akalis......." is not only informatory but also heart throbing for all the religious sikhs who love Panth and have love for 'Akalidal".Those were the days when Akalis and Akali Dal had a respect from everybody in Punjab and all over the world.Today, Akalidals(too many to mention) are working for their own political benefits.There was a time when being an Akali was a pride and always was looked upon with respect. Today the Akali word is a shame.At one time Akali meant "Akal purkh ki fauj" but today akalis mean bunch of crooks and power hungry people.I have only one question which pops up in my mind many times.And that is Who gave Mr. Parkash Singh Badal the power or authority to name after him as "Badal Akali Dal." and who gave the same power to Simranjit Singh Mann to call himself the head of "Akali Dal Amritsar." Akali dal is a Akali dal, no Badal or Amritsar.I would like to know about the people who gave them these 'titles' and power to do anything they want and to call themselves the heads of these "Akalidals".

ruipMdr iF`loN, nwrvy

15/12/03

HELLO,
Sat sri akal to all readers of www.5abi.com. The conditions are changing dramiciatly in punjab from last few months. i think may reason is unemployment in punjab is increasing and desperate youths are choosing way of robbery and killing to gain money at once, this is not good for punjab , raab kara kalia hawawa PUNJAB ch phir na wagn.
from
RUPINDER DHILLON "MOGA" NORWAY

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14/12/03

"vwh jI vwh"

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rUp is~DU

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13/12/03

Mr Khosa ji

The word in the line "Deh Siva ...." is "Siva" not "Siv". The line is in "Chandi Charitar Ukat Bilas" and the word occurs many times in this composition and refers to "Chandi" or "Durga" as wife of "Siv" and hence the female gender name "Siva". You should not mislead readers to say that Siva is to be understood to be same as Akal Purkh.

Regarding the authorship of text of parts of Dasam Granth which contain the stanzas "Deh Siva Var mohi ihe... . . .joojh maraun" here is the relevant part of what late Daljit Singh ji of Institute of Sikh Studies Chandigarh had to say on this issue:

"DEVI AND AVTAR WORSHIP IN THE DASAM GRANTH

Dr Jaggi has made a detailed examination of the issue. He finds that except for about 70 pages of the Dasam Granth, including Jap Sahib, Swayyas, Akal Ustat (excluding hymns in praise of Durga), Asphotak Chhand and Zaffarnama, the other contents which involve worship of avtars, devis and mahakal are mostly from the Puranic literature. Following are some instances of devi worship. (For details see chapter 9 of Jaggi?s book).

(i) Tribhangi Chhands (201-220, In Akal Ustat) are clearly in praise of the devi.

(ii) In Shashtarnama in the beginning there is a whole chapter (27 chhands) in praise of the devi.

(iii) Chandi Charitar I & II, Chaubis Avtar, Rudra Avtar including parts of Charitropakhyan, all relate to the Puranic myths that are in praise of the devi and avtars.

(iv) Similarly, in the above Puranic stories there are numerous hymns in praise of Maha Kal, who is a Tantric or Sakat deity, pages 55, 56, 57, 58, 73, 156, 157, 183, 185, 254, 310, 612, 613, 642, etc.

(v) Worship of devi under the name of Kalika, Chandi, Siva or Durga is found at pages 74, 76, 99, 117, 255, 118, 309, 310, 116, 673, 675, etc., etc.

(vi) Apart from the Var of Durga, there is the entire Puranic story of the devi coming to the rescue of the mythical Indra and fighting battles with demon Maikhasur, involving trillions of soldiers (devi worship chhands and narration of the myth).

(vii) In Chandi Charitar Ukat Bilas the author mentions that he has virtually made the composition from 700 slokas of Markand Purana. He adds that whoever hears or recites the same for any specific boon, the devi would certainly grant it instantaneously (Chandi Charitar, Ukat Bilas - sloka 232).

(viii) In Chandi Charitar II in the sloka 261 the author writes that whoever remembers or worships the devi with devotion, shall attain salvation. Similarly, in the Durga Var the author writes that whoever recites the same, will achieve salvation and not be born again (stanza or pauri - 55).

(ix) Whether it is Rama Avtar, Parasnath Avtar, Krishna Avtar, Brahma Avtar, or the other Puranic stories, these all relate to the worship to the devi and avtars.

(x) Charitropakhyan, too, involves worship of the devi and Kal or Maha Kal (charitra 405, chhands 52, 77, 126 and 132). The very facts that no Sikh is willing to read it in the presence of women or the sangat, and that the S.G.P.C. has called it a Puranic myth and not work of the Tenth Guru, show that it is no longer considered a part of the Dasam Granth.

The above few instances prove that, apart from the about 70 pages or so, the writings in the Dasam Granth positively accept and involve devi and avtar worship. Accordingly, these writings (Chandi Charitra and Chandi Di Var - 126 pages, Chaubis Avtar - 744 pages, Brahm Rudra Avtar - 383 pages, Charitropakhyan and Hikayat - 923 pages) are opposed to the doctrines of the Gurus and Guru Granth Sahib."

The sabad "Deh Siva..." is in the composition Chandi Charitar Ukat Bilas. This Sabad is not a disticnt piece like the sabads in SGGS but is in the middle of a continuing euology to goddess. Before this piece and after this piece the word Siva appears several times and leaves no doubt as to who siva is. She is none other than goddess Chandi or Durga. In linguistic terms also Siva is derived from Siv therby meaning Siva is a lady who is the consort of Siv. And Durga, Chandi, Gauri, Parvati,and Kali in Hindu mythology are the names of the consort of Siv

How did this piece came to be so popular recently?

Before 1970, the SGPC never allowed any dramatist, or film-maker to use Sikh ideas to be the subject of their productions lest they distort them. However, in early seventies a Hindu film-maker named Ramesh Bhakhri manipulated the SGPC to accept his plan to make a film called "Nanak Naam Jahaz Hai". Before that he used to make the usual silly and raunchy Punjabi films. In the above film he did not reproduce any historical incident from the glorious Khalsa past but simply the usual suprstitions about the Jot (the flame of the lamp) in Harimandir bringing back the eyesight of a blind person. Remember, Guru ji never asked us to believe in Jot, Pooja, Archa, Aarti etc., but this was what was shown in the name of Guru Nanak.

Above all, a parade of Sikh students was shown marching in Khalsa College Amritsar ground and singing the piece "Deh Siva Var mohi ihe..". The tune that we now hear in the Gurudwaras and at the inauguration of Sikh functions is the very tune used in the film. This tune has become more or less a national anthem for the Khalsa.

Thus, a Hindu film-maker, very cleverly earned lot of money and made fool of the entire Sikh community to accept singing the praises of Hindu goddess Siva.

If this can happen in late twentieth century, one can imagin how easily the Dasam Granth could be smuggled into the Sikh scriptures.

Dr Serjinder Singh
UK

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12/12/03

HELLO, SAT SRI AKAL TO ALL VIEWERS,
S. balwant singh ramu walia is great leader and really he had done very good jobb for punjabis some reside abroad and also for boys some war looted and cheated by KABOTAR BAAJ AGENT and last they were thrown in foreign jails , and his new rally for refugees is really appreciate movement and we all punjabies must support him , i think so,
kaash sada mulk wich har leader ramuwalia baan java.
RUPINDER DHILLON MOGA(NORWAY)

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12/12/03

We pray to almighty GOD for your success and admire your corrage for your efforts to bring these issues in the air.

This is not only issue. There are many issues we can not do much. I am building my house in Punjab. about two months ago I sent some Money to a Bank in to a bank Account by telegraphic transfer. The Bank manager telling them I now this but we have not recieved the money yet. It cost me about 30 Australian Dollers to send by telegraphic transfer. The money should be there next day. is there any banking Ombudsman we can comlain or write to them or how we can write to the media. then they can bring this up. I am not the only one there are many like me suffering from the banking cruilty. I believe they lend my money for two or three months to some one get the intrest. They put in to there own pocket or they are instructed to do so by the bank. Hope you can inform this to the media for us.

Thanking you

Amrik

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06/12/03

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06/12/03

PRESIDENT BUSH A DREAMER.

Adolph Hitler in his autobiography has a beautiful statement :" if you want to become a great HERO you need to create a war." Without war heroes are not created; that is true. have you ever heard about any hero without a war ? We in this century call it imperialist war against will of people.

War in Iraq is naked aggression, this is against all the norms of international morality and legality. This western imperialism is unacceptable to the world.What message is President Bush giving to the world that might is right.Destruction of Iraq with heavy bomb,cruise missiles and smart bomb, in to a primitive age.This is a crime against humanity, and world opinion.

The old, the sick, poor workers, children's and women have been killed by this American imperialism , in Korea, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam.But in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia American Imperialism were badly defeated by heroic revolutionary peoples war, and Americans left that country with bleeding nose. You can't impose your own law and own brand democracy to whole world. It is neo colonialism. To control Arab oils, world means of productions and distribution by guns.

Innocent people were dying under the evil dictatorship of Saddam Hussain too, without democracy and social justice. President Bush is killing peoples of IRAQ on the name of Democracy by force against the will of Iraqi people, is it fair?The United states, is the principal financier and Armour of the butcher regime in Pakistan far more than 50 years. Pakistan always rules by Army Dictator. But Americans were silent due to willing satellite of America.IS THERE DEMOCRACY IN PAKISTAN ?

It was Albert Einstein who wrote a letter to President Roosevelt that I am ready to help make the atomic bomb which can prevent the war immediately.. Albert Einstein was not creating the atom bomb to destroy any body, just the threat would have been enough, that America has an atom bomb, then it is better to surrender, otherwise the death of millions of people will be the result. Germany surrendered , Japan was considering the fact.. Japan was going to surrender the same week, but the American politicians.... Roosevelt was no longer president; Truman was president. he was in a hurry to drop the atomic bomb ON HIROSHIMA and NAGASAKI. Truman was desperate to use the atomic bomb, his correspondence with Einstein proved that he wants to TEST the atom bomb, he destroyed those two cities and killed thousand innocent people of Japan just for test purpose.If Japan surrender , then there were no possibilities in the near future to test the bombs to see what they can do. how many people can be killed within minutes ? American Imperialism is testing there arms on poor and innocent peoples of the world, if they don't test them millions American will be unemployed and shares of arms industries not only will be down but bankrupt.only world opinion, peoples revolutionary struggles like VIETNAMESE can stop American crime against humanity .

Alexandra said, his teacher , Aristotle , in Greece, has asked me , to bring back one Indian Sanyasi for him. He found a sannayasin , he was naked standing on the bank of the river. Alexandra declared I am Alexandra the GREAT. Sannayasi started laughing and said , I have never seen a stupid man as you are, calling yourself the great. Only those who are not great think,imagine and desire , proclaim their greatness.But those who are great don't even know that they are great. GREATNESS is in innocence. And what have you come to me for?

Sannayasin said to Alexandra and laughed again, Just go tell your so-called teacher that the sannayasin has nothing except himself- and your teacher himself also has that being . There is no need to bring it, to import it from somewhere. Just tell him to be silent and desireless, peaceful, looking inwards, and he will find me.

Alexandra was shaken , this naked man had a such strong being, such an aura and presence. and the way he told him " You are stupid and you are still suffering from inferiority, hence you are called yourself Great Alexandra.

Even president Bush is suffering from inferiority complex because he is dreaming to conquered this world against the will of world masses. Iqbal says in his poem.

YE ILLAM, YE HIKMAT, YE TADABBAR, YE HAKUMAT
PEETE HAING LAHOO, DETE HAING TAHLEEM MUSAWAAT.

TOO KADAR WA AADIL MAGAR TERE JAHAAN MENG
HAING TALAKH BOHUT BANDAH MAZDOOR KE OAKAAT

KAAB DUBEGA SARMAYA PARASTI KA SAFEENA
DUNIYA HAI TERI MANTZIR ROZE MAKAFAT.

Jai Hind
T.S.Pabla.U.K.

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05/12/03

Jagroop Singh Mann's article Duaba in u.k.

Very nice article. Most of it is true, I recently returned from Punjab and saw youth wandering around without any work. If there were any jobs, they are more than willing to do it. I talked to so many young people.
It's sad to see them every day, all ready and no where to go
Regards
Mrs Gill

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05/12/03

Hi
I've read on this page in the article "Deh Shiva Var mohe ehhe" written by Amarjit Singh Khosa who says that guru Gobind singhji was not referring shiva ( hindu god). if its not shiva ( hindu god) and its the devine form which is not seen then why would babaji refer him as shiva and not by some other name. i've heard by many sikh scholars that ram naam and hari naam which appears in almost every page of our shabads and gurbani is not ram and hari( hindu gods) which seems very misleading and some sort of division creating thought just to deny that our religion is not from hindu dharm which actually was and our gods( 10 gurus ) meant to say not to worship forms of god( ram, hari , shiv and many more ) but to worship the devine source which actually sends these forms in each yug to perform certain duties and guru GOBIND singhji also was preaching the people who came into sikh religion from hindu religion that to not worship him as he 2 was messenger of god( as said by ram , hari not to worship them). our Guru saw that pandits and currupt people in the name of god were making fool of innocent people. he did'nt want the same to happen in our religion. But its a sorry state that in our religion 2 sikhs have forgotten the preachings and in the name of tappad and chairs have created division just to gain power.

kindly explain if u don't agree with what i feel as this is what i have known after listening to various religions.

gurjIq prUQI, knyfw

04/12/03

With reference to my letter last week, which was an answer to the article of Mr. regarding why we still need Captain Amarinder Singh' Govt. I was right because " THE BATTLE HAS BEGUN". Mr. Badal's case against Mr. Captain for defaming him is in the court and it is a shame that a chief minister of a province has to stand for a trial. At present, the opposition leader Mr. Badal is in jail, and the chief minister Captain is in court. What a country.Shame, Shame, Shame on both.

Now a big question arises. These two THUGS are getting after each other's blood and who is looking after the people of Punjab and the business of provincial parliament.There are so many issues in Punjab which have to be resolved and skillfully taken care of and they also need the attention of both the leaders of their parties.Captain Amarinder Singh is the King of Punjab and he thinks he can do whatever he wants and only person who can check on him is the leader of the opposition party, and he is in jail.Even after Mr. Badal comes out of jail, he still would be very busy in next few years, contesting his bribary cases in the court.Captain will try to nab him and put him jail for a long long time and Badal will try to defend him as best as possible. Poor people of Punjab. Gurjit Proothee
Brampton, Ontario, CANADA.

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04/12/03

Remembering Balwant Gargo in His Birthday

Balwant Gargi, the colourful Punjabi literary personality passed away in Mumbai on the last 21st April and was cremated in New Delhi the next day. There were many reports suggesting that a suitable memorial should be built for this multi-dimensional doyen of Punjabi literature in the city of his birth, i.e. Bathinda. One would hope that the activists of Punjabi literature have finalized some concrete ideas of commemorating him on his birthday falling on the 4th of December - he was born in 1916.

I had happened to notice Gargi's birthday in 1985 and immediatly wrote him a letter of congratulations and good wishes. I had not to wait long for a reply. The signed letter in English dated December 15, 1985 is a precious possession with me. I reproduce below a part of this letter reflecting the esteem of a distinguished writer for an unknown reader-admirer.

"Thank you for your letter of December 4th. It was my birthday. How sweet of you to remember this day . I hardly tell anyone about this date and do not celebrate it. But this year, my younger son, Manu, 17, brought a little freshly-baked cake with my name and one candle stuck in it. A friend turned up. We three shared wine and I blew the candle. One year gone.... Life going.... It reminds one of how transient we are, and how we are wasting time, or as the Bard says, 'Now, time doeth waste me' . "

In my letter to him I had mentioned that I had read out his short play 'Nawam Mudh', i.e. 'The New Beginning' to the Aunt of my Grandfather and my Grandmother. The innocent ladies wondered how the innocent little games of children found such an amazingly accurate description in a book! I had further added that 'The Naked Triange', published in 1980 had puzzled my wife who wondered how such intimate human relations can be so openly detailed in a book in English. I had also referred to my asking him a question, when he had come to deliver a lecture in the Goverment College of Bathinda on 5th September 1967 - the day I had joined the colege as a Lecturer.

Many more thoughts and memories come crowding on the 88th birthday of Balwant Gargi, who has made a lasting contribution to Punjabi literature as a 'playright/Director'; 'short-story writer'; the keenest delineator of character sketches, mostly of fellow writers and above all a prose stylist in Punjabi. Gargi's achievement lies in liberating Punjabi writing from the heavy overlines of the morality and religion. He championed the 'Punjabiyat' without raising any slogan about it. Long live Balwant Gari! And a very Happy Birthday to him. One can bet that he must be celebrating in style wherever he is!!

Punjab Premanand,
Wellington,
New Zealand

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03/12/03

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gurqyj isMG, vYilMgtn-inaUzIlYNf

ruipMdr iF`loN, nwrvy

03/12/03

hello ,

now i use to read 5abi.com regurally, and it keeps me in touch with punjab, really some singers have misused there profession and they made themselves as human smugglers by wearing a another face of KABOTAR BAAJ, i request all my punjbi friends not to put themselv in the hands of kabtoor baaj people, it is dream of every punjabi to see western world, it is nice to see western world and to earn and to help oconimically family , but please use proper channels to make dream true, dont throw in the hands of kabtoor baaj people , by allowing this u spoil your money and putting your life in danger.
SAT SRI AKAL TO ALL READERS AND VIEWERS.
FROM
RUPINDER DHILLON (NORWAY)

AmrjIq pwl AwstRIAw

03/12/03

This is very good NEWS Badal arressted in corruption case. A Rich men.........ha ha ha

 

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02/12/03

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02/12/03

Respected Sir

Satshri Akkal. We, me and my friends are very happy on seeing our mail published on your site.All the punjabies are proud upon us that we the people from punjab celebrated gurupurab of shri GURU NANAK DEV JI first time in the history of Hungary. The role of pathi has done by sardar Manmohan Singh. All the arrangement is covered with the help of Mr.kalsi Pramjit singh who is residing in Hungary from last 12 years. The Ambassador   India Sardar Manbir Singh giving his views about the life of BABA JI.HE narrates no. of sakhi's of Baba ji.Round about 100 people from india and Hungary grouped together to celebrate the function.The hungarian people enjoyed a lot the punjabi food { samossa+channa Dal+Bhutura+Heavy milked tea}.The Hungarian people waiting for next Indian celebration.We all together pray to BABA ji that keep our efforts to make a deep impression in the heart of Europian people about the indian sprituality.

With regards
jaswinder chopra

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01/12/03

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iesy qrHW krIb iqMn cwr vrHy pihlW jdoN qurkmYinsqwn eyAr, auzbyiksqwn eyArvyz AMimRqsr phuMcIAW sn qW cMfIgVH dy keI trYvl eyjMt cMfIgVHoN jlMDr jwxy SurU ho gey sn qW aus vyly vI pMjwb Aqy ielwkweI APsrSwhI keI idn cMfIgVHoN Cpdy iek AMgryzI AKbwr iv`c iehI ibAwn dwgdI rhI ik CyqI hI cMfIgVH kOmWqrI hvweI A`fw bx jwvygw ikauNik AMimRqsr iv`c keI qknIkI ^wmIAW hn[

ienHW hwlwq iv`c mYN aunHW swirAW musw&rW ƒ vDweI idMdw hW ijhVy AMimRqsr hvweI A`fy rwhIN pMjwb phuMc ky APsrSwhI ƒ SrimMdw kr rhy hn[

DMnvwd sihq,
gurqyj isMG, vYilMgtn-inaUzIlYNf

hrbIr isMG BMvr, luiDAwxw

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- pRo� s�qoK is�G AOjlw  

01/12/03

kI pMjwb nUM AmirMdr isMG dI loV hY?

sMpwdk jI

pRo. sMqoK isMG AOlK jI lyK "pMjwb nUM Ajy vI AmirMdr isMG dI loV ikE?" piVHAw[ aunHW vloN pRgtwey mYN swry ivcwrW nwl sO PI sdI sihmq hW isvwey lyK dy isrlyK Aqy ies dy smr`Qn ivc ilKy SbdW dy[ ieh lyK qsvIr dw iek pwsw hY[ qsvIr dw dUsrw pwsw ieh hY ik nW bwdl srkwr qy nw hI kYptn srkwr iBRStwcwr Kqm kr skI hY[ kYptn AmirMdr isMG dI srkwr ivc cl rhI irSvqKorI qy iBStwcwr bwry p`qrkwr dlbIr isMG dw iek lyK jo mohwlI ivKy iek qihsIldwr dy dPqr bwry sI, pihlW hI quhwfy A^bwr/vYbsweIt 'qy C`p cukw hY[ iehI hwl hr dPqr dw hY[ ies qrHW dIAW hzwrW audhwrxW idqIAW jw skdIAW hn[ AslIAq ieh hY ik pMjwb pRSwSn ivc SryAwm irSvqKorI cl rhI hY, ijs dw muK mMqrI jI nUM pqw vI hY[

pMjwb srkwr ivc iek bhuq hI aucy Ahudy 'qy qYnwq sKSIAq dI myry byty nwl bVI nyVqw hY[ aus bVI hI iemwndwr sKSIAq ny keI mhIny pihlW myry byty nUM disAw ik iek mh`qvpUrn Sihr dy iek AYs.pI. dI bdlI ikqy hor ho geI[ pMjwb puils dy qqkwlI puils muKI s.mihl isMG Bulr ies SKSIAq dy dosq hn, ijnHW nUM AwK ky aunHW ny ieh bdlI mnsU^ krvw idqI[ muK mMqrI dy iek E.AYs.fI. nUM ies AYs.pI. dI bdlI mnsUK hox bwry pqw lgw, aunHW ies AYs.pI. nM ikhw ik ieh bdlI aunHW (E.AYs.fI.) ny kYnsl krvweI hY, ies leI uaunHw nUM 8 l`K rupY idqy jwx[ aus sKsIAq ny ieh hkIkq Kud muK mMqrI AmirMdr isMG dy noits ivc ilAWdI, pr koeI AYkSn nhIN hoieAw[ rvI is`DU dw kys vI muK mMqrI dy pYr hyT btyrw Awaux vwlI gl lgdI hY[

myrw vI ieh ivcwr hY ik swbkw muK mMqrI pRkwS isMG bwdl qy aunHW dy Anyk mMqrIAW ny iBRStwcwr kIqw hY Aqy aunHw ivruD kwrvweI hoxI cwhIdI hY, ies leI lok pwl pws jwxw cwhIdw sI[ kY. AmirMdr isMG iBRStwcwr ivru``D nhIN, ipMf dy lokW vWg bwdl pirvwr nwl in`jI lVweI lV rhy hn[ jy auh vwkeI iBRStwcwr Kqm krnw cwhuMdy hn, qW lok pwl vloN iBRStwcwr dy doSI pwey gey ipClI kWgrs srkwr dy cwr mMqrIAW ivruD vI kwrvweI krn[ ApxI cmcwigrI krdy kuJ iBRSt APsrW, Kws kr Apxy sInIAr APsrW nUM kuVIAW splweI kr ky auc Ahudy 'qy phuMcy iek APsr, dI Cu`tI krn[ nhIN qW iehI smiJAw jwey gw ik iBRStwcwr ivruD ieh kiQq lVweI iek frwmw hY, isAwsI stMt hY[

Aj pMjwb ivc rjvwVwSwhI cl rhI hY[ srkwrI krmcwrIAW smyq pMjwb dw hr vrg AmirMdr isMG dI srkwr qoN duKI hY[ Aj coxW hox qW ies srkwr dw s&wieAw ho jwey gw[

hrbIr isMG BMvr, luiDAwxw

pirqpwl kOr, nwrvy

01/12/03

I am very pleased that we have such a good Punjabi site on the internett. We have good writers, and they should help the people. They should write about how to avoide Badal, and let him be at his status. He is missusing the word "Panth" to get support from the people of Punjab

mvh
Pritpal Kaur
Norway

pRo.pRIqm isMG gryvwl, kYnyfw

301103_sobha-sohni_100.jpg (3939 bytes)ic`qrkwr soBw isMG nwl ibqwey 25 vrHy
- hrbIr isMG BMvr

30/11/03

s.hrbIr isMG BMvr dy s.soBw isMG bwry ilKy AwrtIkl 'Awrt gYlrI icqRkwr soBw isMG' Aqy 'icqRkwr soBw isMG nwl ibqwey 25 vrHy' myry leI ^ws idlcspI dw kwrn bxy[ iehnW nUM pVHn nwl pwlmpur dI suhwvxI vwdI iv`c bqIq kIqy iqMn swlW dIAW ^uSgvwr XwdW qwzw ho geIAW[

icqRkwr soBw isMG dy AMdrytw siQq invws qoN koeI 6-7 iklomItr dUr rwjpur ivc rihMidAW EhnW dy stufIE Aqy Awrt gYlrI nUM dyKx qy EhnW dI ivl`Kx, pRBwvSwlI S^sIAq dw swQ mwxn dy keI mOky imly[ rwjpuroN pMcruKI rwhIN kudrqI vwqwvrn 'coN pYdl qur ky jwxw iek izAwrq vWg lgdw[CotI ryl dy pMcruKI stySn qoN A`gy s.soBw isMG dy invws qIk p`kI sVk bx cukI sI, Swied aus vkq dy muK mMqRI pRqwp isMG kYroN dI koiSS sdkw[ ihmwcl pRdyS EdoN pMjwb dw hI Bwg sI[ 1966 iv`c pMjwbI sUbw bxwaux smy ieh kudrqI idRSW Aqy sYr spwty dIAW sMBwvnwvW BrpUr ielwkw pMjwb qoN v`K kr idqw igAw[

soBw isMG dy invws dy sVk vwly pwsy 'Grow More Good' Bwv vDyry cMigAweI pYdw kro iliKAw hoieAw sI[ EhnW idnW ivc srkwr vloN Anwj dI kmI dUr krn leI nwhrw idqw igAw sI 'Grow More Food' Bwv vDyry Anwj augwE[

brWfy ivc EhnW dy pwly hoey rMg-brMgy bjrIgr pMCI cihkdy suAwgq krdy[ stufIE dI iek iKVkI rwhIN DOlwDwr dIAW brPwnI cotIAW dw mnmohxw idRS AxoKy lYNfskyp icqR dw BulyKw pwauNdw[

ijs qrHW hrbIr isMG ny iliKAw hY soBw isMG nUM coxvW swihq pVHn qy pVHwaux dw bhuq SOk sI[^lIl ijbrwn, jy.ikRSnwmUrqI Aqy Qoro nUM mYN pihlI vwr EhnW dI injI lweybRyrI qoN hI piVHAw[

iek vwr myry imqR AjIq isMG ny d`isAw ik soBw isMG hurIN koeI ivSyS icqR bxw rhy sn qW EhnW ny A`KW icqRn leI AjIq nUM bulw ky ausdI idRStI nUM GoiKAw[ pr AjIq isMG dy kihx Anuswr EhnW ny ikhw, 'qyrIAW A`KW ivc vI auh kuJ nhIN jo mYN lBdw hW[' ikMnw AiDAYn qy imhnq krdy hoxgy AwpxIAW klw ikrqW nUM AslIAq dy v`D qoN v`D nyVy lY jwx leI, EhnW AMdr jwn pwaux leI!

mrhUm icqRkwr dI ieiqhwsk Awrt gYlrI dI EhnW dI bytI bIbI gurcrn kOr qy pRvwr vloN dyK Bwl krn dw audm SlwGw Xog hY[

5AwbI Aqy s. BMvr jI dw ieh ilKqW pRkwSq krn leI SukrIAw[ pMjwbIAW nUM AMdryty dy irSI klwkwr soBw isMG nUM Xwd r`Kxw Aqy aus dIAW ikrqW auqy mwx krnw cwhIdw hY[

pRo.pRIqm isMG gryvwl
kYnyfw

ruipMdr iF`lo, nwrvy

30/11/03

SAT SRI AKAL,

WAHE GURU KARA 5ABI .COM DIN DUGNI RAAT CHOGNI TARAKI KERA, WHAT A NICE SITE,I AM NEW COMER TO SEE THIS WEB SITE BUT NOW 5ABI .COM HAD BECAME MY WEAK NESS AND USE TO OPEN FIRST THIS SIGHT , WHEN I OPEN MY INTERNETT

SAT SRI AKAL 2 ALL MY FRIENDS AND VIEWRS.
FROM
RUPINDER DHILLON
DRAMMEN
NORWAY

siqnwm isMG sivtzrlYNf

30/11/03

hux qy swfy dysI eyArport dI b~ly b~ly ho geI[ Bwv swfI pMjwbIAW dI AwKr suxI hI geI[

bVy smy qoN AsI AMimRqsr eyArport bwry supnW ilAw krdy sI ky kdy swfw vI ies cMdrI idlI qoN Cutkwrw ho jwvy[ AsI SRI ieMdr kumwr gujrwl swihb dy bhuq bhuq DMnvwdI hW ijMnW ny ies eyArport nUM AMqrrwStrI hvweI A~fy vjoN mwnqw idqI qy 100 kroV qoN v~D rupey sMkSn krvwey[ koeI do swl pihlW isrP AMimRqsr Swrjwh dw rUt sI jo ky ieMfIAn eyAr lweInz dw sI pr smW pw ky qurkmYinsqwn eyAr, auzbyiksqwn eyArvyz qy iPr swfy  pMjwbI Brw pUnI swihb dw jhwj Aw igAw qy hux hor vI eyAr lweInW dI idlcspI vD rhI hY[ swnUM bhuq KuSI hY[ bVy lMmy smy qo suxdy Aw rhy hW ky AMimRqsr eyAr port qy bhuq lut Gsut hY pr idlI iblkul hI nhI[ ies vwr mY ies bwry Kud AMimRqsr jwx dw  ivcwr bxwieAw qy aujbyiksqwn eyArvyj dI itkt KRId leI[ ies itkt dI kImq b~s ieh smJo ijs qrW AMimrqsr qoN idlI dI itkt KRIdI hovy Bwv iblkul hI ssqI[ isrP 525 XUro[

ies dy mukwbly sivtzrlYNf qo idlI jwx vwlIAW aufwnw krIb dUxy ryt dIAW sI[ BwvyN aujbyiksqwn dI sivtzrlYNf qo koeI isDI aufwn nhI hY pr iPr vI AsI iesy nUM hI cuixAW qy izaUirk Sihr qoN 4 GMty kwr clw ky PrYNkPrt cly gey[ PrYNkPrt qoN 11.40 idn dI PlweIt sI, pUry smy nwl ieQoN PlweIt auf geI qy pUry 6 GMty  bwAd qwSkMd phuMc geI[ b~s hvweI jhwj ivcoN bwhr inkl idAW hI iek AwdmI AMimRqsr AMimRqsr dw hokw dy irhw sI ijs qrW swfy b~s AifAW qy hokw idMdy hn[ auh kih irhw sI ky AMimRqsr jwx vwly ies b~s iv~c cV jwx qy idlI vwly dUsrI b~s iv~c[ AsI krIb 25-30 dy krIb sW kuJ bIbIAW qy b~cy vI nwl sn[ b~s 5 ku imMt dI frweIv bwAd iek Coty jhwj kol ilAw ky b~s KVI kr idqI qy ikhw ky ieh jhwj AMimRqsr jw irhw hY, Awpxy Awpxy bOifMg kwrf lY lau qy ijhVI mrjI sIt qy bYT jwau[ b~s 10-15 imMt iv~c c hI AsI  aus jhwj iv~c bYT gey qy ieMny ivc hI AmrIkw, kYnyfw qy ieMglYNf qo Awey pMjwbIAW dI iek b~s hor Aw geI, swrw hvweI jhwj Br igAw, koeI sIt KwlI nhI sI[ hor pMdrW ku imMt dI ieMqjwr vwsqy kYptn ny bynqI kIqI ky smwn hwly nhI AwieAw ies krky sbr r~Ko[ CyqI hI smwn Aw igAw qy hvweI jhwj AMimRqsr vwsqy irV ipAw[

qwSkMd qoN AMimRqsr dw 2 GMty 25 imMt dw smW hY ieh kYptn ny AnWaUNs kIqw[ ies smy dOrwn bhuqw hI vDIAw Kwxw pyS kIqw igAw, ies qrW l~g irhw sI ky ieh PlweIt dunIAW dI nMbr vMn PlweIt hY[ pUry 2 GMty 25 imMt bwAd lhOr dy aupr dI huMdw hoieAw jhwj AMimRqsr dI DrqI nwl jw l~gw, gurU dI ngrI phuMcx dw mn iv~c bhuq hI cwA sI[ b~s 5 ku imMt iv~c hI jhwj eyArport dI iemwrq dy kol clw igAw[ iek AwrjI ijhI bxI pOVI ispwhIAW ny D~k ky jhwj dy nwl lw idqI qy AsI swry pMjwbI, AMimRqsr eyArport dI isPq kr rhy auqr rhy sW ky beI hux AsI ies vyly idlI phuMcxW sI qy k~l rylW iv~c K~jl ho ky Gr AwauxW sI[ hr pMjwbI ies p~KoN bhuq KuS sI[ iek vIr nUM mY puiCAw ky qusI vI swfy vWg pihlI vwr hI Aw rhy ho, ausny ikhw ky nhI mY qW cOQI vwr Aw irhw hW qy bVw KuS hW[ b~s ieh g~lW krdy krdy AsI eyArport dI iemwrq AMdr iemIRgySn vwilAW pws phuMc gey[

iemIgRySn dy krIb 8 AkwaUNtr sn qy krIb 40 imMt iv~c hI auhnW swnUM Pwrg kr idqw[ ie~k ivAkqI nUM kstm vwilAW pkiVAw hoieAw sI[ aus nUM dyK ky mY smiJAw ky vwikAw hI AMimRqsr vwly qMg krdy hn, jd mY kstm vwilAW nUM puiCAw ky kI g~l hY qW iek kstm boilAw, dyKo srdwr jI ies pws 34 iltr Srwb hY, ies nUM 4 iltr qy AsI kstm nhI lwauNdy bwkI 30 iltr qy ieh kstm dyvy[ auh ivAkqI kstm vwilAW nUM bhuq gwHlW k~F irhw sI qy kstm vwly aus nwl bhuq nrmI nwl pyS Aw rhy sn, ieh njwrw dyK ky mY soicAw ky AMimRqsr vwly bhuq cMgy hn jy idlI huMdw qW ies ivAkqI nUM bhuq kut pYxI sI[ pr AsI swirAW iv~c pY ky qrlw imMnq krky 300 XUro 30 iltr dw kstm  dy idqw qy aus nUM bwhr ilAWdw[ Awp vI auh ivAkqI bhuq SrwbI hoieAw sI[ 

bwhr inkl idAW swr hI iek ivAkqI nUM lYx vwsqy 5-5 Grdy jIA Awey hoey sn, qy bVw KuSI dw mhOl sI[ kwrW dI pwrikMg iv~c koeI jgw KwlI nhI sI[ AMimRqsr dw eyArport BwvyN hwly Cotw hY pr iPr vI swrIAW shUlqW pRdwn hn[ smwn pRwpq krn vwlw AwtomYitk rol hwly Cotw hY[ pr nwl hI bhuq v~fI iemwrq bx rhI hY jo ky vrqmwn idlI dy eyArport nwloN kwPI v~fI hY[ pr kMm nhI sI c~l irhw[ iek ispwhI nUM puiCAw qW ausny d~isAw ky Tykydwr inrml isMG bhuq sihjy kMm clw irhw sI aus pwso ieh pRjYkt srkwr ny vwps lY ilAw hY, hux nvW Tykydwr Aw irhw hY qy rwq idn kMm cly gw[ ieh iblifMg 2004 dy AMq q~k bxnI cwhIdI hY[ nvW eyAr.trYiPk.kMtrolr vI bx irhw hY[ iek rMn vy hor vI bx ky iqAwr ho igAw hY[ swrIAW g~lW puCx qoN bwAd ies g~l dw vI pqw l~gw ky AMimRqsr dw eyArport vrqmwn swry eyArportW nwloN sohxW hovygw[ hux hPqy dIAW 19 PlweItW ho geIAW hn, BivK iv~c hor vI vDx dy Aswr Aw rhy hn[

auDroN Awaux vyly swfI diphr dI aufwn sI, 11 vjy dI[ Awaux vyly 2 GMty dI qwskMq styA sI, bhuq vDIAw hwl sI ijs iv~c swrIAW sivDwvW mOjUd sn[ qwSkMd dy smy muqwibk 4 vjy Swm dI aufwn sI qy PrYNkPrt Swm nUM 7 pI.AYm qy phuMc geI sI[ jo g~lW SrwrqIAW pwsoN suxIAW sI ky AMimRqsr bhuq lut Gsut hY, swrIAW JUTIAW qy by buinAwd inklIAW hn[AMimRqsr eyArport AwDuink nhI hY, purwxw eyArport hY, ieh s~c hY[ ijhVI b~s eyArport dy AMdr XwqrIAW nUM leI iPrdI hY bhuq purwxI hY[ pr iPr vI swrw rlw imlw ky AMimRqsr jwxw hjwrW guxW cMgw hY[

mY qW hr iek nUM ieho slwh dyvW gw ky AMimRqsr jwau, nwly scKMf SRI hrmMdr sihb dy drSn kro nwly idlI dI K~jl KrwbI qoN bco[
glqIAW dI iKmW[
siqnwm isMG sivtzrlYNf

hrbIr isMG BMvr, Bwrq

29/11/03

AkwlI dl vloN rsqw roko pRogrwm bwry pRqIkrm

sMpwdk jI,

5AwbI dy do suihrd pwTkW ny AkwlI dl dy vrkrW vloN Apxy pRDwn qy swbkw muK mMqrI pRkwS isMG bwdl qy aunHw dy pirvwr ivruD kiQq iBRStwcwr dy kys dwier krn dy ros vloN pMjwb Br ivc 'rsqw roko ' pRogrwm bwry pRqIkrm kridAW p`qrkwrW/lyKkW nUM ies bwry ilKx leI suJwA idqw hY[mYN pMjwb dI mOjUdw siQqI bwry iek lyK ilKxw SurU kIqw hoieAw hY,iek do idnW ivc mukMml kr lvWgw[

bwdl pirvwr ivruD kiQq iBRStwcwr dy kys nUM 'pMQk mslw' bxwaux bwry mYN AkqUbr dy pihly h&qy iek p`qr pMjwb qy AmrIkw, kYnyfw qy brqwnIAW dy swry A^bwrW nUM ByijAw sI, jo bhuq swry A^bwrW ivc C`p vI igAw sI[ aus dI kwpI 5AwbI dy pwTkW leI Byj irhw hW[

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bwdl swihb,ieh mnuKI AiDkwrW dI aulMGxw nhIN

sMpwdk jI,

jwlMDr qy cMfIgVH qoN C`px vwly swry A^bwrw ny 4 AkqUbr dy AMk ivc pihly pMny qy bVI pRmuKqw nwl ieh ^br CwpI hY ik swbkw muK mMqrI qy AkwlI dl dy pRDwn pRkwS isMG bwdl Aqy is`KW dI imMnI-pwrlImYNt SRomxI gurduAwrw pRbMDk kmytI dy pRDwn j`Qydwr gurcrn isMG tOhVw dI AgvweI hyT AkwlIAW dy iek v&d ny, ijs ivc cwr AYm.pI. qy 43 ivDwiek sn, kOmI mnuKI AiDkwr kimSn dy cyArmYn nUM ptISn pweI hY ik pMjwb dI kWgrs srkwr aunHW ivru`D zwqI ikVW k`Fx leI JUTy kys bxw rhI hY[ ieh gl hux j`g zwhr hY ik ijs qrHW Kwlsw isrjxw dI qIjI SqwbdI dy mOky bwdl swihb dw ApxI srkwr qy pwrtI dw swrw zor j`Qydwr tOhVw nUM pRDwngI qoN lwhux leI lgw hoieAw sI, pMjwb srkwr qy kWgrs pwrtI dw swrw zor bwdl swihb nUM kiQq iBStwcwr dy kysW ivc Gyrx leI lgw hoieAw hY[ kYptn AmirMdr isMG dw kihxw hY ik bwdl pirvwr ny nwjwiez qrIikAW nwl 3500 kroV rupY dI jwiedwd bxw leI hY, bwdl swihb ny aunHW ivru`D mwnhwnI dw kys kIqw hoieAw hY[ muK mMqrI dw kihxw hY ik sRI bwdl ivru`D sbUqW smyq iBRStwcwr dy kys Adwlq ivc pyS kIqy jwxgy Aqy Adwlq qoN AwdyS lY ky hI bwdl swihb nUM igRPqwr kIqw jwey gw[

bwdl swihb, ieh kys mnuKI AiDkwrW dI aulMGxw dw nhIN hY, iBRStwcwr krn vwly nUM rokxw aus dy mnuKI AiDkwrW dI aulMGxw nhIN hY[ ieh kwnUnI kys hY Aqy qusIN kwnUnI lVweI kYptn AmirMdr isMG qoN bhuq pihlW SurU kIqI hoeI hY, so kYptn vloN kIqy jwx vwly kysW dw mukwblw kwnUnI FMg nwl kro[ mnuKI AiDkwrW dI aulMGxW dI hwl duhweI nw pwE[ ieh iek kOVI hkIkq hY Aqy ic`ty idn vrgI s`cweI hY ik keI AkwlI mMqrIAW ny r`j ky kur`pSn kIqI hY, auh vI ienHW kysW dw mukwblw kwnMUnI FMg nwl krn[ mYN ies gl nwl pUrI qrHW sihmq hW ik kYptn AmirMdr isMG zwqI ikVHW k`Fx leI ieh kys k`F rhy hn[ jy auh s`cy idloN iBRStwcwr ivrUD muihMm clw rhy hn qW Bwjpw Aqy Apxy mMqrIAW, ijnHW nUM lokpwl ny doSI pwieAw sI, ivruD vI bwdl swihb vWg kwrvweI krn[

bwdl swihb, ieh pMQk mslw vI nhIN hY, quhwfw qy quhwfy pirvwr dw in`jI mslw hY, so AyYvyNyN pMQ dI duhweI nw pwE[ ApxI hkUmq dy pMj swl qW quhwnUM pMQ Xwd nhIN AwieAw, hux ikvyN hyj Aw igAw[ so bIijAw hY auhI k`txw pYxw hY[

gurjIq isMG prUQI, knyfw

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- pRo� s�qoK is�G AOjlw  

29/11/03

With reference to Prof.Santokh Singh Aujla's article "why do we still need Capt. Amarinder Singh's Govt." is an insight to the political spectrum of Punjab.I am against corruption and any honest and peace loving person would be of my opinion too. But let us not forget that the palace of Democratic system is erected on the foundation of 'corruption'.There is corruption everywhere and in every country in the world. It is different that it is named differently according to the situations and the need for the situation. I do not know much about Indian system because I have been away from India for a long long time, and being lived in western world, I have understood that corruption is named differently in every country and every city of the world.

Take example of "fund raising events". It is nothing but a very sophisticated name for corruption. It says "YOU WASH MY HANDS AND I WILL WASH YOUR HANDS"

The difference between eastern and western corruption is the sophistication, which comes with time. We in India have a democratic system for only half a century whereas democracy was born in the western world.

WE CANNOT ABOLISH OR KILL CORRUPTION.

What needed now is, not to play a dirty game in politics.Let us not avenge each other. Today Capt.is the king of Punjab. Nobody stays in power for ever in this world. One day Captain will be out of office and naturally, his opponent or his associate is going to replace him.With the passing of time, Capt. or his associates will be making such blunders just like Badal did, and the New King will find out about them too.If the spirit of revenge stays, it is not going to be pretty scene.

If we stop for a moment and start thinking about what kind of system of Govt.we should have in Punjab.There is no Govt.in India, or in the world, which is corruption-free.

I am not ADVOCATING CORRUPTION. But the need is to think about how we can just make a system which works smoothly and everybody is happy. In the time of Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji, the corruption was at its heights, and He had to burn some corrupt people alive to clean the mess.Who can tell that after this incident, the corruption was abolished completely and nothing went wrong after that. It is another fact that we had to sacrifice hundreds of Singhs to get the corrupt Mahants out of Gurdwaras and bring the S.G.P.C.

Everybody knows what is happening in all the historic and non-historic gurdwaras, NOW, not only in India, but all over the world.(This is another topic which requires an article to bring to the attention of the Sikh Sangat worldwide.
Gurjit Singh Proothee
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29/11/03

respected sir
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29/11/03

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28/11/03

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