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11/09/03
Dear Sir,
The autobiographical essay titled, 'Madrassa Madhoram Wala' by Prof. Pritam Singh
Grewal indeed recreates the golden era which is no more in the education. The teachers
like Madhoram left a lasting impression on the younger minds.
I would imagine that there are still talented and educated teachers around in the
schools. The commercialization has, however, debased every aspect of life, including the
sacred field of learning and education.
Let us look for the living Madhorams!
abc, New Zealand |
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srvjIq isMG |
crnjIq isG bl, knyfw |
09/09/03 The Editor,
My friend sarbjit Singh sent me Amarjit Singh Khosa's letter/article dated 9 Sept. '03
with your weekly's name at the header. Mr. Khosa who, perhaps because of his maternal
uncle President Balwant Singh Gill, apparently fraternizes with the so-called moderate
Sikh Sangat of the Guru Nanak Sikh Gurdwara, Surrey, Canada is evidently aligned with the
proponents of the so-called Dasam Granth i.e. Gurcharnjit Singh Lamba, Tarlochan Singh
Nahal, Sadh Virsa Singh and his turncoat devotee Rattan Singh Jaggi, et al who are all
aligned with the Sikh orthodox or sectarian factions. Some advertently or inadvertently
lend support to RRS zealots' intrigue to promote Dasam Granth that portrays Sikh Gurus as
Hindu Avatars, Idolaters, Wizards, reclusive mendicants, etc.
In his diatribe Amarjit Singh opinionates that the malady starting with Gyani Bhag
Singh, Prin. Habhajan Singh missionary College Ludhiana, Prin. Habhajan Singh Chandigarh,
Gyani Surjeet Singh Missionary and some other enemies of the Panth, has now reached S.
Gurbakhsh Singh Kala Afghana and Prof. Gurtej Singh. Obviously according to Amajit Singh
Khosa, the malady afflicting the above-mentioned scholars/writers whom he considers
enemies of Sikh Panth is criticism of erotic and mythical Dasam Granth and the
authenticity of its writer/s. Amarjit Singh Khosa asks, (1) 'how could the diabolical
split personality of
Dasam Granth critiques Singh Nidhan and Chakraview (?) writer Prof. Gurtej Singh and at
one time prodigy of Sirdar Kapoor Singh, a Dasam Granth's proponent remain hidden'?
Amarjit Singh Khosa insinuates that Prof. Gurtej Singh is an ungrateful for relapse of his
faith in his mentor or Guru's Sirdar Kapoor Singh. He further says 'we do not understand
whether Prof. Gurtej Singh was stupid when he advocated Dasam Granth; or now when he
criticizes it'. Only Prof. Gurtej Singh can respond to Amarjit Singh Khosa's invective
accusations.
To keep my missive concise, instead of writing a critique on Amarjit Singh Khosa's
letter/article, I humbly request Amarjit Singh Khosa and his ilk to read my article on
Dasam Granth published on my Website www.sikhsundesh.net.
May be he would like to do me the honor of including my humble name in the list of the
Dasam Granth's critics whom he considers enemies of Sikh Panth.
A rationalist Sikh
Charnjit Singh Bal |
sRImqI A isMG |
09/09/03 This so-called
dasam granth is not even a granth but a slapping together of puranic myths (braj in
gurmukhi script - quite clearly stated). It is more in keeping with the
puranic/kabbalisitc ideology and theory of creation and a split God who is unable to tend
to or even create its creation without creating other creatures to do it for him. This is
a direct contradiction of the Akal Purukh of Sikhi. Some extensive sexist literature and
elaborate kavita of the kind indulged in by darbari kavis of rajas with their far-fetched
tales. (khalsa having dropped from Shiva's prayer mat!). There is an ocassional red
herring thrown in to make it seem compatible to gurmatt - but it is just window dressing.
Anyone who has read this stuff is repulsed and nauseated by it. This is the
anti-literature of Guru Granth sahib, even worse than the hindalia granth, and successor
to it nevertheless, with a view to undermine the teachings of Sri Guru Granth Sahib.
This evolved from a few pages to the granth of the present day, to be set up as a rival
and to subvert the philosophy of Guru Granth sahib. Most people have not bothered to read
it, or have chosen to pull a few paragraphs/stanzas that suit their purpose to mislead.
This is despite the fact that it is clearly a very shoddy job of putting together a
credible granth - that can remotely rival any previous literature compiled - let alone
Guru Granth sahib.
My request is to read the avtaras and the charitopakhyan to the females of your
household and then decide if one would think this is in any way shape or form to be even
worthy of keeping in the vicinity of their sons, daughters and parents. Here we have some
wise one trying to put it in gurdwaras and indulge in bhang parsads and the most un-khlasa
like behaviour, in order to justify this supposed granth, which so has no mention of
khandae di pahul/Amrit ceremony (so far) With the increase in literacy this is not going
to be hidden like the misdeeds perpetuated in the 18th century. Once any one reads this
stuff, it will be exposed. No amount of hiding behind Jaap sahib is going to help.
Granths may come and go, but for the sikh there is only One - The Guru Granth Sahib,
the container of the Divine knowledge. The shenanigans of other created and time limited
gods and goddesses are of no importance to us. The pages after pages of viles of women
cannot be justified even if they were matched with viles of men like Chandu and Gangu,
these kinds of perversions make for granths to be read in brothels not Gurdwaras. Let the
mythology and eroticism - meant for baser instincts be revered by those who have no
intention of moving above it be their self-created shackles and tall tales of imaginary
beings, and those who want some spirtual uplift and advancement in their lives will
automatically seek Guru Granth Sahib - our mentor and Shabad Guru. No amount of coercion
is going to make us accept parallel granths or literature at par with the one given in
written shape by our Guru sahiban.
If it is knowledge we seek, it is all in there- including the basis for khandae di
pahul/ Amrit/khalsa. Those who seek find it as promised and those who flounder running in
circles trying to find justification for their misdeeds by trumping up granths are just
deluding themselves. We can only pray for bibek budhi to actually open up and read the
1430 pages in front of us. Things would not have come to this if we has been reading even
one
stanza daily and contemplating and imbibing it. We would have known any misleading
literature at a glance - but our so-called maryades of akhand paths by hired pathis,
kathas by hired kathakars and kritans by hired kirtanyas has resulted in our not knowing
or misinterpreting our second-hand knowledge of our Treasure - resulting in granths galore
in the names of our Guru Sahiban, because the khalsa of today is too busy promoting
himself and has no time to listen to his Guru, the Guru Granth Sahib, and seeks to justify
his bhang parsads form other literatures deeming them at par with the one ACTUALLY given
to us by our Gurus.
Those individuals have spoken up against this mass subversion of our faith in Guru
Granth sahib in form of spurious literatures are the true and few khalsa - because theirs
is courage that made them stand up against all odds and at the cost of their personal and
intellectual safety to reiterate what every Sikh should have. We have only one Granth and
that is the Guru Granth. Least we can do is to declare loudly, above the din created by
vested interests and their RSS swamis - there is no other Granth for us but Guru Granth.
Koor nikhutae nankaa orakh sach raheen....
Mrs A Singh |
pirqpwl isMG ibMdrw, knyfw |
09/09/03 Dear Charanjit Jee,
Thanks for visiting my WebPage at <www.bindra.net> I have also gone through the
contents of your splendid website too. It is indeed very impressive. I also appreciate
your thought expressed in your posting to 5Abi. Most of the so called protagonists of
Dasam Granth I came across, have confessed that they never went through the contents and
are led to believe it to be the creation of Dasam Patshah. They are just made to believe
it as another sacred book of the Sikhs. The aim of the anti-Sikh element is to dilute the
teachings and philosophy of AGGS. When would hour highest seat of clergy see through with
intellectual vision?
Keep up the good work,
With regards,
Pritpal Singh Bindra |
q s pwblw, brqwnIAw |
09/09/03 I visited Bhagwan
Sai Baba Kingdom in 1996. It takes three hours from Banglore to Reach the destination
PUTAPARTHI by Taxi. During my journey I asked Taxi driver opinion about Sai Baba. His
reply didnt surprise me, he said this Sai Baba is for rich people, minister, and
foreigners only not for poor people.
Politician : Most corrupted like congress ex.Prime Minister Narsimha
Rao visited him for blessings, and President of India Giani Zail Singh too, who was silent
during 1984 atrocities with Sikhs in Delhi , he was drinking innocent sikh blood in
Rashrapati Bhawan . After independence congress party leaders Nehru, Indra, Giani Zail
Singh used dirty tactics of British to Divide and Rule in Punjab on the name of Language
and demarcation of states.This people are responsible for communual riots and murders of
20 thousands sikh youth on the name of extremism. Sai Baba is simply serving the status
quo, that is why he is respected by the status quo.He is simply in the service of rotten
society. Of course rotten society respect him. And this is something to be understood:
society respects only those saints or Bhagwan who are agents --- agents who help the
society to continue as it is , agents of establishment.
Hospital & Colleges : I visited this place and I start to think a
man who has looked deep in to the misery of man, a man who is really so full of compassion
that he wants to help , to be of some help to the suffering community. And the suffering
humanity is not helped by creating more Hospitals or by making more people educated under
rotten system. The rotten society has to be destroyed completely; only then can a new
society be created. Renovation is not going to help. We have been renovating the same old
ruins for centuries. We have to create new society. Let us bring new human being. Let us
give birth to something new, a new mind, a new consciousness.
Sai Baba Magic: One more point to be understood
It happens that
when for the first a meditator attains to some Psychic Energy, some psychic power, the
tendency, a natural tendency, is to exhibit it. And if he exhibits , sooner or later he
will lose the power .Then a great problem arise: he cannot do it now, but now he has
respectability. He is worshipped and people expect him to do miracles. Now what is he
going to do ? He will have to turn to magic, he will have to start learning tricks, to
maintain his prestige.Thats what happened to Bhagwan Satya Sai Baba. The first
things that had done were real, the first few experiments that they had done were not
phony. But then the energy disappears. And by that time you have become famous, and people
start gathering, foolish and ignorant people and they expect you, and your whole ego
depends on your exhibition. Now the only possible alternative is to learn magic tricks so
that you can go on maintaining your prestige. If you brag, sooner or later you will become
a victim of magical tricks. You will have to learn and deceive people
There is no heaven and there is no hell. They are not geographical, they are part of
our psychology. They are psychological. To live a life of spontaneity ,truth and beauty is
to live in heaven. To live a life of hypocrisy, lies and compromises, to live according to
others is to live in hell. If life is lived in its totality, Sai Baba and priest is not
needed at all. If you are okay as you are , if life is beautiful as it is , what is the
need for a priest or Sai Baba.
T.S.Pabla,UK |
hrjIq isMG jgrwEN |
08/09/03 Dear Editor,
WaheGuru ji Khalsa !!
WaheGuru ji Fateh !!
The article written by Mr. Amarjit Singh Khosa, dated 04/09/03., is very commendable. I
wish him abound success & pray that more of similar kind of articles be produced &
distributed to increase the readers awareness.
Harjit Singh Jagraon. |
ivrk kmljIq isMG, spyn |
08/09/03 Sat sri Akal,
I am from Spain.I have seen the web -- www.welcometoindia.com.
In this web U go to see The Golden Temple.In The history of The Golden Temple ,there is
written that before the BLUE star opration The Golden Temple was misused by terrorist .
Everyone (Punjabies) know that Blue Opration was wrongh.
indra`s action was wrongh.
Please see this web and also send emails to that web and ask him not to write like this.
Sat sri akal |
lKivMdr isMG is`DU, pMjwb, Bwrq |
06/09/03 Bus bhaji chakee
chalo fatte te punjabien di beh ja beh ja karva deo dunia which .Kade kade gurudwarian
deian larhian bare vee lekhia karo ji.Ehna noon vee koaie aqal deo ji
Lakhvinder Singh Sidhu
Punjab India |
siqnwm isMG sivtzrlYNf |
06/09/03 isfnI dy hwkI pRymI vIrW dw p~qr pV ky auhnW dw jugrwj pRqI
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rOSn kry[ |
bljIq isMG sMDU |
06/09/03
Very good article
Baljit Singh Sandhu
Stockton California U.S.A |
isfnI dy hwkI pRymI |
05/09/03
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isfnI dy hwkI pRymI |
mnijMdr isMG AwstRylIAW |
05/09/03 Dear
Editor
The letter written by Mr Khosa is very educative and demonstrates his knowledge of the
Gurbani and Sikh history, but the tone and un-respectful words do not fit to the contents
of the subject. The derogatory remarks about the people who may be wrong or right do not
deserve any appreciation rather has decreased the weightage of his argument. I request if
it can be taken into consideration.]
Guru Fatah
Manjinder Singh
Sydney Australia |
primMdr isMG "f`lw", mONtrIAl, kYnyfw |
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husn lVoAw bMgw |
04/09/03
XUbw istI, AmrIkw, ivc qIAW dw mylw (qsvIr: husn lVoAw bMgw)
|
is`K sMgq, PRImONt, kYlyPornIAw |
04/09/03 we saw
the excellent pictures of gurudwara sahib. we r really apprecate ur services to the sikh
communtiy.
sikh sagat fremont cali4nia usa
guru fateh |
AmrjIq isMG Kosw |
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ieQy gurqyj isMG is`K rihq mirXwdw, sRI Akwl qKq swihb Aqy gurU-pMQ nUM pUrI
qrHW smripq hY, ijvyN ik hr guris`K nUM hoxw cwhIdw hY[iPr pM:150 aupr ilKdy hn
ij`Qy dUsry DrmW ivc mukqI pRwpqI dy hor Anyk swDn hn, auQy Kwlsy leI prm purK
ivc AByd hox dw ie`ko ie`k rwh ieho hY ik auh DrmI purS dy Awqimk ivkws Aqy duinAwvI KuSI
ivc ivGn pwaux vwlIAW AinAWkwrI SkqIAW nwl inrMqr Xu`D krdw rhy[ gurU goibMd isMG jI dy
Aim`t vwk- DMn jIE iqh ko jg mY muK qy hir ic`q mY juD ibcwry] dy ieho Bwv
hn[ieh lweInW dsm gRMQ AMdr gurU goibMd isMG ricq ikRSnwvqwr pM:570 aupr
AMikq hn[
isMG nwd dy pM:223 aupr sR. gurqyj isMG
ilKdy hn pihlW gurU gRMQ swihb ivc KVg lPz keI vwrI vriqAw igAw hY[ie`Qy Aqy
Dwrimk lihrW dy ieiqhws ivc ikRpwn dw smwn AwrQk ieh Sbd Drm dy s`cy su`cy
igAwn jW Dwrimk PlsPy dy AMqRIv Bwv leI hI vriqAw igAw hY[dsvyN pwqSwh
dy jY qygM vwly Sbd ivc vI qyg dw ieho ArQ hY[ieh Sbd Kg KMf
ibhMfM Kl dl KMfM qoN surU hoky mm pRiqpwrx jY qygM qy Awky smwpqI huuMdI hY, Aqy
ieh BI dsmgRMQ ivc bicqR nwtk dy SurU dw iqRBMgI CMd pM:39 aupr drz hY[
iPr sR.gurqyj isMG dy isMG nwd dy pM:224
aupr drz hY ikeysy Bwvnw ADIn dsvyN pwqSwh PurmwayNdy hn, ik KVg dw kwT (h`Q
jW mu`Tw) h`Q ivcoN C`fx vwly (pRwDInW) nUM KVg dI Dwr DOx qy sihxI pYNdI hY[ieh dsm
gRMQ dy cirqRopwKXwn vwly cirqR nM:297,31-1 pM: 1247 aupr drz, Aqy ies qrHW hY-KVg hwQ
ijin qjhu KVgDwrw sho]
sR.gurqyj isMG dI pusqk c`kRivhU dy pM:143
aupr isrdwr kpUr isMG dI h`Q ilKq dI Poto kwpI, jo ik aunHW nUM nYSnl pRoPYsr AwP
isiKiesm dI srvu`c pdvI imlx smyN dI spIc (iviKXwn) hY, ausnUM auh vwihgurU jI kI
Pqih] qoN SurU krky myru kro iqRx qy muih jwih grIb invwj n dUsr qo so] (bicqR
nwtk) Aqy pM:147 aupr DIrj Dwm bnwie iehY qn buiD su dIpk ijau
auijAwry](ikRSnwvqwr dw AwKrI sYXw) vwlIAW lweInW, jo ik dsm gRMQ ivcoN hn,AwpxI
ilKq dI pRoVqw leI vrqdy hn,ijvyN ik hr pMQk guris`K dw Drm hY[
dsm gRMQ dw CoCw
vwly lyK ivc ies
gurqyj isMG ny koeI nvIN qW nhIN, pr bxw suAwr ky auhI lkIr ip`tI hY, ik 18vIN sdI dy A`D
q`k ies gRMQ dI hoNd nhIN sI, dUjw iesnUM pRmwixq is`K Drm gRMQ vjoN svIkwr nhIN kIqw jw
skdw, qIjw iesnUM gurU goibMd isMG jI ny gurU gRMQ swihb ilKdy smyN nwl Swml ikauN nhIN
kIqw, Aqy cOQw auhI ik ies ivc nwnk nwm Cwp dI vrqoN ikauN nhIN kIqI[ Bwg isMG AMbwlw,
ipRM.hirBjn isMG cMfIgVH, ipRM.hirBjn isMG is`K imSnrI kwlj luiDAwxw,ig.surjIq isMG imSnrI
id`lI, Aqy ku`J hor pMQ doKIAW ivcoN lMGdI hoeI hux ieh bImwrI gurbKS isMG kwlwAPgwnw Aqy
ies gurqyj isMG qy Aw phuMcI hY[ ieMnHW Aqy ies qrHW dIAW hor Fu`crW dy juvwb pMQk ivdvwnW
v`loN bhuq vyrI id`qy jw cu`ky hn[Aksr imlIAW hoeIAW syvwvW dw mu`l vI qW is`KI nUM FwA
lwky hI qwirAw jw skdw hY[dsm gRMQ dw CoCw
vwly lyK dIAW hor tUk mwqr
ies qrHW hn:_
ieh kihxw glq nhIN hovygw, ik ieh swry dw swrw
kWf iksy SYqwn idmwg dI GwVq hY[dsm gRMQ dI auqpqI qy ivkws bwry bVI GoK krky nqIjy k`Fy
hn, jo hux keI pusqkW (APgwny vwlIAW?) ivc Aw cu`ky hn[ ies pRsMg ivc bu`DI qoN s`KxI iek
kwrvweI 1896-97eI: ivc kIqI geI sI[iek Awm, pr AigAwnqw qy AwDwirq Dwrnw ies gRMQ nUM
dsvyN gurU swihb nwl joVdI sI[ jwgq joq gurU dy nwl iksy hor gRMQ; BwvyN auh dsvyN gurU dw
hI ikauN nw iliKAw hovy, dw pRkwS byAdbI hY[ Aqy ies sMbMD ivc dsvyN gurU swihb v`loN kIqy
gey hukmW dI aulMGxw hY[cricq cMfI cirqR qy keI p`KW qoN ikMqU kIqw jw skdw hY[ cOpeI,
cirqRopwKXwn dw hI ih`sw hY, ijs nUM svwrQ ih`qW qoN pRyrq lok hI gurU swihb dI rcnw mMndy
hn[ krIb s`qr ku pMinAW bwry koeI bhuqw vwd ivvwd nhIN hY, ijMnHW nUM dsvyN gurU dy nwm
nwl joiVAw jw skdw hY[ gurU gRMQ swihb qy dsm gRMQ dy s`qr pMinAw ivc drz Akwl purK
ikRpwlU, jnm mrn qoN mukq, in`Gw Aqy mwqw ipqw vWg ipAwr qy snyh krn vwlw hY, jdoN ik bwkI
dsm gRMQ dw mhWkwl KUn dw ipAwsw, byikrk, koJw qy Awm hI v`fIAW lVweIAW lVn qy l`KW kroVW
lokW nUM kql krn vwlw hY[ieh dyh Dwrn krdw hY, Aqy AwpxI hr dyh ivc iehnUM KUn dI holI
KyfidAW ivKwieAw igAw hY[ ku`J inhMg sMprdwvW hiQAwrW dI AwrwDnw krdIAw hn,pr ies AwrwDn
dw gurU gRMQ swihb dy drSn nwl koeI sMbMD nhIN hY[gurU gMRQ swihb Anuswr hiQAwr Aijhy aucy
sdwcwr vwly XoDy hI cu`k skdy hn, ijhVy Akwl purK,scweI Aqy mnu`KI kilAwx pRqI pUrI qrW
smripq hox[hiQAwr Awpxy Awp ivc koeI pIr nhIN hn, qy nW hI pUjw dI vsq hn[ijhVI vI cIz
sdwcwr qoN s`KxI hY,haumY ivc rMgI hoeI hY jW Akwl purK dy hukm qoN bwhr hY,auh gurU dy
bcn Anuswr siqkwrXog nhIN hY[hiQAwr qW nwdr Swh, AbdwlIAW, cMgyz KwnW Aqy ihtlrW dy swDn
vI huMdy hn, so ieh g`l insicq hI hY, ik dsm gRMQ, gurU swihb dIAW isiKAWvW qoN kohW dUr
hY[gurU gRMQ swihb dy hr pMny ivcoN ipAwr dI vrKw huuMdI hY,Aqy dsm gRMQ dy ies ivcwr ADIn
ih`sy ivcoN ihMsw fu`lH fu`lH pYNdI hY[ s`cI g`l qW ieh hY ik dsm gRMQ dy bhuqy
ih`sy dw ie`ko ie`k mMqv isv Aqy ausdI sMgxI cMfI nUM mhWkwl dy sB qoN v`D SkqISwlI AvqwrW
vjoN sQwipq krnw hY[ Aihswn PrwmoSI Aqy mUrKqw dI isKr qoN ielwvw ieh mnu`K zwqI dy prm
AwdRS dsvyN gurU dI ArS CUMhdI Swn nUM dwgI krn dw Gor kmIxw Xqn vI hY[cirqRopwKXwn vrgIAW
ASlIl ilKqW nUM pYgMbrW dy auqrwiDkwrI dy nW nwl joVnIAW cMd qy Qu`kx dy brwbr hY[
hux dyK lvo ijhVIAW g`lW ieh ilKwrI A`j ilK irhw hY,
aus bwry nW qW gurU sihbwn dy smyN vwly is`KW nUM qy nW hI is`K rihq mirXwdw
bnwaux vwlI swrI kmytI nUM pqw sI, ijsnUM bnwaux leI audoN qyrW swl qoN aupr smW
l`igAw[isrdwr kpUr isMG,d`Kx v`loN is`K sjy nMd isMG, drSn isMG PyrUmwn Aqy aus qoN pihlW
ho cu`ky jW hux vI iksy vI guris`K, ivdvwn, jW mhWpurS jo ik pUrn is`KI rihq ivc rih ky
jIvn bqIq kr gey/rhy hn, auh dsm gRMQ, in`qnym, AMimRq sMcwr, Ardws, ds gurU sihbwn eyk
joq, sRI gurU gRMQ swihb, Dur kI bwxI, SSqrDwrI hoxw, srb`q dw Blw mMgxw, Bwxy ivc jIvn
ijauxw Awid sB g`lW qoN Anjwx sn/hn[auh sB AkloN KwlI sn/hn[gurU dy lV l`g ky BI aunHW nUM
koeI soJI nhIN sI/hY[so ieh bVy Aihm nukqy hn, ijs krky isrdwr kpUr isMG jI Aqy sR.gurqyj
isMG isMG nwd qy c`kRivhU vwly Aqy ies dsm gRMQ dw
CoCw
vwly gurqyj isMG dw vKryvW bVw hYrwnIjnk, SMky BrpUr, kmInqw dI h`d qoN
pwr huMdw hoieAw ikvyN gu`Jw rih skdw hY?
hux BI ieh GuMfI auvyN hI AVI peI hoeI hY, ik iek
gurqyj isMG, isrdwr kpUr isMG dw mu`deI hY[iek sR.gurqyj isMG c`kRivhU qy
isMG nwd dw ilKwrI hY[iek gurqyj isMG dsm-gRMQ dw CoCwlyK ilK irhw
hY[ieh sB Al`g Al`g hn,jW ie`ko dy keI mKOty hn[iek hoxw qW AsMBv l`gdw hY[ienHW dy Al`g
Al`g hox ivc hI pMQ dI BlweI hY[gurU BlI kry!AsIN qW isrdwr kpUr isMG vwly gurqyj isMG dy
DVy dy hwmI hW,jo ik gurU-pMQk DVw hY[
r`b nW kry jy ieh ieko hY,- qW iesdw isrdwr kpUr isMG
jI dy inktvrqI hoxw iDRg hY[isrdwr kpUr isMG dy kihx krky iesny is`KI dw p`lw qW nhIN
C`ifAw, pr isDWq sB C`f id`qy hn[Awpxy gurU jW ausqwd qy XkIn nW krn jW S`k krn vwly nUM
AikRqGx ikhw jWdw hY, qy iesdw shI srUp BweI gurdws jI dI iek vwr md
ivic irDw pwieky ivc dyiKAw jw skdw hY[iPr ijhVI g`l Ajy k`l AwpxI pusqk ivc khI hY,
A`j ausdw hI KMfn kr irhw hY[hux iesdI AkldwnI ivc iksy ny ku`J izAwdw hI mwiek JurlU Pyr
id`qw l`gdw hY[swnUM qW pqw nhIN ieh audoN byvkUP sI jW iPr hux[ies g`l dw inrxw iksy
dUsry qoN krwaux dI bzwie Kud hI kry qW byhqr hY[
AmrjIq isMG Kosw |
drSn isMG,
qlvMfI BMgyrIAW |
03/09/03 Respected Friends,
Thanks a lot for creating Excellent Punjabi site for our community.
I hope, this site is beneficial for those who are not who are hating the culture of Punjab
(some punjabi also)
Convey my regards those who helps to prepare and support to complete this noble task.
With regards,
Darshan Singh
Talwandi Bhangerian |
sMqoK isMG |
23/08/03
s. KuSvMq isMG dy iehnW ivcwrW nwL mY sihmq hW[ SurU ivc pqw nhI ikauN ihMdusqwnI
'rwj-r`bW' ny ikauN nhI ieh rwh ApnwieAw qy byloVy Krc, KycL qy ibArQ hI vsIly vrq vrq ky,
ipCly pcvMjw swlW qoN BwrqI jnqw nUM iek AijhI BwSw nUM Goty lwaux ivc auLJweI riKAw jw
irhw hY jo ik swfy vwsqy AMgRyzI nwLoN vI vD AOKI mihsUs ho rhI hY[
sMqoK isMG
AwstRylIAw |
rwj
BUipMdr isMG, Bwrq |
18/08/03
pwiksqwn dw jnm hoieAw.....pr keI inrdoSW dy
kql.....keI loBIAW ny lutmwr kIqI..........jo ik Drm dy burky pihn ky Drm dI rwKI dy bhwny
ivc ....mn mrjIAW krdy rhy [
Awm lok ies lut mwr qoN dUr Awpxw Awp bcw
ky cl rhy sn ..[
iehI sB kuJ A`j dy Bwrq ivc duhrwieAw jw irhw hY
[ Drm dI AwV ivc dMgy krwey jw rhy hn....rwjsI lwhw K`itAw jw irhw hY ......Awm jnqw ies
dI sjw Bugq rhI hY [ pr iPr vI Awm ivAkqI Awpxy Drm ivc prp`k hox ivc XqnSIl hY .......[
1947 dI lu`t-mwr ivc keI Bu`Ky....r`j
gey....qy....keI r`jy.....Bu`Ky rihx leI mjbUr kr idqy gey [
keIAW dy Gr aujV gey ....qy...keIAW dy
v`s gey......[
Awpxw Awp nMU bcwaux leI keIAW ny Awpxy
kys kql krvw idqy .......AimRqDwrI bwby ny DIAW dI jwn bcwaux leI kys ktw 'qy [ pr lyKk dI
kI mjbUrI sI kys ktwaux dI.....ies bwry swry jwnxw cwhuxgy .........[
is`KW ny pihlW imhnq kr ky 'bwr'
vswieAw.....qy iPr ieDr riPAUjI bx ky Awey qy iPr Awpxy pYrW qy KVy ho gey.....ieh sB kuJ
aunW dI hf-qoV imhnq dw sdkw hI ho sikAw [
1947 qy 1984 vrgy duKdwiek GlUGwry dubwrw nW vwprn....iehI swfI swirAw dI vwihgurU A`gy
Ardws hY [
rwj BUipMdr isMG, Bwrq |
rwj BUipMdr isMG, Bwrq |
18/08/03
"pwxI.......pwxI........pwxI.............."
ieh AwvwjW hoxgIAW,Awaux vwly smyN ivc, swirAw dy kMnW
ivc ; pr pwxI nhIN hovygw [ ies sB kuJ nUM rokx leI auprokq lyK bhuq A`Cy FMg nwl smJw
irhw hY , ijs nUM swry smJ lYx aupMrq Awpo Awpxy eyrIey ivc lwgU krn [ hux auh smW nhIN
rih igAw ik ...pwxI dw kI ey...vwDU ipAw ey ...ijMnW mrjI vrq lE [ pwxI dI sMBwl bwkI
kudrqI soimAW qoN ijAwdw krnI cwhIdI hY [
gurbwxI ivc vI iliKAw hY :
" pihlw pwxI jIau hY ijq hirAw sB koie "
so pwxI dI loV hvw dI loV qoN dUsry nMbr qy hY [ jy
pwxI hY qW ijMdgI KUbsUrq hY nhIN qW hr pwsy vIrwngI Cw jweygI [
hvw vI dUiSq ho rhI hY qy pwxI vI [
K`itAw kI ?
....pYsw...?
iks vwsqy ?
sOKI ijMdgI ijaUx vwsqy ?
pr ijAwdw pYsw kmwaux dy ckr ivc ijMdgI dy mUl sroq hI
dUiSq ho gey qW ijMdgI ikvyN clygI ?
A`j ienW svwlW dw jvwb iksy kol nhIN [ jy hY vI qW " hoaU pry ....." kih ky twl
idqw jWdw hY [ pr Awaux vwlIAW pIVIAW ies dy nqIjy bhuq burI qrW BugqxgIAW qy ies sB leI
hor koeI nhIN, AsIN hI ijmyNvwr hovWgy [
so swry rl iml ky ies bwry ivcwr krIey [ Awpxy ipMfW,
m`hilAw, SihrW ivc " pwxI bcwE kmytI " bxweIey [ hPqwvwr, mhInwvwr mIitMgW
kIqIAW jwx, ijnW ivc pwxI bcwaux dy auprwly kIqy jwx [ Swied ies qrw krn nwl AsIN AwpxI qy
Awaux vwlI pIVI dI kuJ byhqrI kr skIey [
rwj BUipMdr isMG, Bwrq [ |
jsvMq isMG, lMfn |
au~dm A`gy l`CmI ...jy r`b ny eynw vI kMm nhIN krnw qW hor aus nUM rgV ky PoVy auqy
lwauxw hY? - dlbIr
isMG |
myrw pwiksqwn - ijnHW
ieh swrw kihr isr qy J`ilAw hY, A`KIN dyiKAw hY aunHW dy idl qy kI guzrdI hY[ - suKdyv is`DU |
17/08/03
ipafry sMpfdk jI
do mfarky dy lyK hn dlbIr isG df qy isDU jI df.
d[s[ vflf idmfg dI qrjLmfnI krdf hY TrMHmy nfl iliKaf hoieaf qy iswDU vflf
idl dI gl krdf hY-kivqf vrgf[ eys kihr df Gfv sLfied kdy vI nhIN jfxf- Gwto Gt iqn
cfr pusLqF qF jrUr nhIN jfdF lgdf[ dlbIr isMG nfl keI bMdt sihmq nhIN huMdy. afpxf
afpxf ivcfr hMudf hY[
kI asIN iehnF gwlF qoN sbk vI isWKdy hF? lLgdf hY
nhIN sgoN EhI glqIaF muV krI jFdy hn[
jsvMq isMG lMzn |
Bjn isMG AOjlw, XUbw istI (kYlIPornIAw) |
15/08/03 ijvyN isAwxy kihMdy hn sO h~Q r~sw, isry qy gMF,
SmSyr isMG hurW bVy suc~jy qrIky nwl AwpxI mW bolI dy chyiqAW dy mnw dI g~l kIqI hY [ jy
koeI ieh smJ irhw hY ik swfy lIfr pMjwb Aqy pMjwbI dw kuJ svwr dyxgy, igrJW dy AwlHixAW
coN mws dI botI Bwlx dy brwbr hY [ AzwdI qW iehnw lIfrW nUM imlI hY, jo vqn qy
mr-imtx vwilAW dy isvy qy rotIAW pkw ky Kw rhy hn [ Awm jnqw qW mwqr ByfW vwg hY ijhnw qoN
hr swl iksy nw iksy aun lwh ky lY jwxI hY [
Bjn isMG AOjlw
XUbw istI (kYlIPornIAw) |
sMdIp isMG cwhl, AmrIkw |
15/08/03 Hello
All,
Sorry for not writing in punjabi coz i dont have the font but i am 101% satisfied with
Shamsher Singh florida regarding his comments on Dalbir singh Article.Hats off to Dalbir
singh And to shamsher singh.......
Sandeep Chahal |
SmSyr isMG - &lOrIfw AmrIkw |
au~dm A`gy l`CmI ...jy r`b ny eynw vI kMm nhIN krnw qW hor aus nUM rgV ky PoVy auqy
lwauxw hY? - dlbIr
isMG |
14/08/03
sihpwTk jno[
kuJ idnW qoN l`sI irVkI jw rhI hY eys lyK bwry, ijs
rwhIN dlbIr isMG jI ny is`K pMQ dy iBRStcwr ivc il`bVy, Aqy mihz AwpxIAW kursIAW nwl
icMbVy nyqwvW dy pwj auGwVn bwry ivsQwr sihq iliKAw hY[
moFy qy hl pMjwlI r`KI ABnyqrI nrgs dI qsvIr, kyvl
ikrswxI nUM drswaux qoN isvw mYnUM qW ies lyK nwl myl KWdI iblkul nhI lgdI[
KYr g`l swfy iek pwTk v`loN lyKk 'qy Zlq lWCx lgwx bwry
hY[ ijs ny Awpxy Kq ivc
"Who are you? Or should I say are you a Jatt?"
etc
ilK ky dlbIr isMG nUM CuitAwxw cwihAw hY[
ij`QoN q`k mYN smJ sikAw hW, dlbIr isMG ny AWpxy klipq
ikrdwr murwrI dw nwm lY ky is`KW dI v`fI kmzorI 'zwq
pwq' qy iek ivAMg k`sx dI koiSS kIqI hY[
pRMqU lyK dy AwKrI pYry ivc auhnW ny murwrI dy nwl AsihmqI jqw ky rxjIq pMDyr horW dI
cuxOqI nUM nkwirAw hY[
aus ny vlI Aihd bwry d`s ky ieh vI sO-&I-sdI s`c dI
pySIn-goeI kr idqI hY, ik ijhVIAW ByfW ny Srwb qy A&Im dy g`Py C`k ky cwr idn hirAwxy
dI &wrm dI mihmwnI mwx ky votW vycIAW hn, Aswfy vyNhidAW vyNhidAW AsIN swry lokW ny
iksy nw iksy lwlc kwrn, pMjwb dw rwj-Bwg Es pMQ dy g`dwr dy muMfy dI JolI Pyr pw dyxw hY[
bwdl nUM, SihrI is`K votW bwry qW pqw hY ik auhnW nUM
ausdI eImwndwrI qy iblkul ivSwvws nhI hY[ aus kol ies vyly rwj Bwg qW hY nhI[ hux qW aus
ny do hI pYNqry vrqxy hn[ pRWq dy bhu igxqI ikrswxW ( j`tW ) nUM pyNfU Brw kih
ky, Aqy pMQ drdIAW nUM pMQ Kqry ivc hY, dw nwhrw lw ky[
iek dilq bfUMgr nUM, iek mohry vWg vrq ky mqlb pUrw hox
qy iqRskwr dyx bwry dlbIr isMG ny ilK ky koeI Zlq g`l nhI kIqI[ is`K jgq dIAW A`KW KolHIAW
hn[
tOhry nUM Awpxy mrn iknwry bYTy nUM kursI dI eynI lwlsw
hY, ik BwvyN aus koloN quirAw vI nw jWdw hovy, mrn qoNN pihlW SromxI kmytI dw qwj ausdy
m`Qy zrUr hoxw cwhIdY[ jy auh s`c mu`c isK kOm leI suihrd huMdw qy Awpxy iksy nyk
lY&tInYNt nUM auh kursI dyx dI kurbwnI krdw, qW is`K kOm dIAW A`KW ivc vDyry Awdr lY
skdw[
sMq jrnYl isMG qoN Akwl qKq Awzwd krwaux vyly, blU-stwr
dy hmly vkq vI eyhy B`dr purS ihMdusqwnI hukmrwnW nwl swz bwz krdy rhy[ hux Pyr auhnW hI
hukmrwnW dy BweI vwlW nUM muV ky g`dI qy ibTwx leI bwdl nwl j`PIAW pY geIAW hn[ nw bwdl ny
pMjwb jW pMQ dw kuJ svwirAw hY, nw tOhry ny, nw suKbIr ny kuJ svwrnw hY[ Awm jnqw Aqy
bu`DI jIvI hYrwn ho ky iek dUjy dy mUMh v`l q`kdy rihxgy[
dlbIr isMG horW nUM iek suJwau hY, ik auhnW dy ikrdwr
dw nwm murwrI dI QW lihxw isMG jW bwbw bohV vrgw koeI hor Fu`kvW nwm vrqx qW eys s`Q dy Awm pwTkW nUM koeI
auzr nW hovy[
SmSyr isMG - &lOrIfw AmrIkw |
srvjIq isMG |
12/08/03 pfTk pRvfr nMU siq sRI akfl .
amrjIq isMG Kosf jI df pwqr piVaf Aus ivcNo myry
AuhnF iek do svflF dy jvfb imlyy ijhVy svfl mY vIr kMvl jI nMU pwuCy sn. Kosf jI afp jI df
buhq-buhq DMnvfd ik afp jI ny nMdyV ivKy gurU goibMd isMG jI dy pRlok -ipafnf krn vfry
jfxkfrI dy ky vIr hrijdMr isMG kMvl dI , bfbf ajypfl isMG vflI iQAUrI nMU JWUTI sfbq kr
idWqI hY.
afp jI dy bcn ik , "dsm-gRMQ bysLwk anMdpur
sfihb hI alwg alwg poQIaf ivc iqafr ho cWukf sI, pr anMdpur sfihb Cwzx smyN iesdf bhuq
ihwsf srsf ndI dI Byt cVH igaf sI". ies sbMD ivc bynqI hY ik jdo guru goibMd isMG jI
ny guru gRMQ sfihb jI bIV nMU iqafr krvfieaf sI Aus smyN jF Aus qo ipCoN,jo afp jI dy
muqfvk vI Cy swq sfl df smF sI , kI guru jI aKoqI dsm gRMQ nMU iqafr nhI sI krvf skdy?.
Kosf jI ieh ikvyN ho skdf ik gurU jI ny gur gwdI qF idWqI hovy , 'inrMkfrI igafn meI bfxI'
nMU, aqy afpxI klm nfl iliKaf hovy ieqhfs aqy imiQhfs ?.
Kosf jI ieqhfs ivc iskMdr vfry qf hr iksy ny kuJ nF
kuJ qF piVaf hI hY aqy dsm gRMQ ivc vI iskMdr df ijkr hY ,jo afp jI ny jrUr piVaf hovygf,
hux ieh dso ik ,kI dsm gMRQ ivc iskMdr vfry drj jfxkfrI bfkI dunIaF ivwc iskMdr vfry
AuplwBd jfxkfrI dy nfl myl KfdI hY ? ies ivco ikhVf ieqhfs TIk hY dsm gMRQ vflf jF bfkI
dunIaf df ?.
imiQhfs vfry bynqI ik qusI guru gMRQ sfihb jI dI
bfxI ivco koeI vI sLbd Byj skdy ho dfs Aus dI ivafiKaf krygf, AupRMq sRI dsm gRMQ sfihb jI
ivco sLbd mY Byjfgf Aus dI ivafiKaf afp jI krogy , jo vI PYslf pfTk krngy dfs nMU mnjUr
hovygf
hoeIaf BwulF leI iKmf krnf jI
afp jI dy pwqr dI AuzIk ivc
srvjIq isMG |
rxjIq pMDyr |
12/08/03 Shri
Dalbir Singh Ji,
Who are you? Or should I say are you a Jatt Sikh or something else. Whatever Badal is
he is I don't think it has anything to do with he being Jatt Sikh or not. If you pay so
much attention to caste, I would appreciate if you tell what is the one you belong to. I
like to read what you like but would like to advise, don't get lost is casts and
cummunities. Focuss on issues not personalities. Thanks.
Ranjit |
jsbIr isMG |
au~dm A`gy l`CmI ...jy r`b ny eynw vI kMm nhIN krnw qW hor aus nUM rgV ky PoVy auqy
lwauxw hY? - dlbIr
isMG |
12/08/03
Dear editor,
Heading of Dalbir Singh's article is unwanted. As such article contains some good
matter. Sikh religion as propagated by Guru Nanak beleives in Chardi Kala. A person should
always be in Chardi Kala. One should
think like ,I lost one eye. Thank God atleast one is safe. There are many blind people.
God is always kind. I am talking about people who developed love with God.
An other objection I have here is regarding the mentioning of 'Operation Blue Star'.
Such a shameful event of history and a so called rational writer is saying it an
operation. Was it an operation? or an attack on sikh nation by Hindu ruler. The brahamns
of Hindu reign could not produce one suicide bomber to kill Sant Jarnail Singh jee but can
lost nearly a thousand of their mercernaries. Army gathered innocent people killed them
with their arms. Did not provide them food and water for many days. They did whatever they
could to their enemy sikh nation. All this so called operations was favored by
communists(so called rationlists). A writer of the height of Dalbir should be shameful
while labelling it an operation.
I would like to suggest few eye opening readings:
Diary De Panney by Harbir Singh Bhanwar
Nerio Dithe sant Jarnail Singh by Dalbir Singh[a farmer communist].
What Mr Pabla said is applicable to him only. Sikhi is based on three concepts:
1. Naam Jappo (Remember him allthe time)
2.Dharam di Kirat Karna.
3. Vaand Shakna
God is sarab sanjha. In his only presence good or deeds are judged without any label.
regards,
Jasbir Singh |
gurqyj isMG vYilMgtn inaUzIlYNf |
au~dm A`gy l`CmI ...jy r`b ny eynw vI kMm nhIN krnw qW hor aus nUM rgV ky PoVy auqy
lwauxw hY? - dlbIr
isMG |
10/08/03
au~dm A`gy l`CmI pVH ik mn iv`c iek
iKAwl AwieAw ik bdysW ivc nvyN Awey keI lok FweI kwlmW dw Pwrm Brx leI vI ieDr auDr gyVy
k`Fdy iPrxgy[ ieh lok aus mwniskqw dy DwrxI huMdy hn ijnHW r`b rgV ky gofy qy
lwauxw huMdw hY[ ies mwniskqw Kqm krx dI koiSS qW gurU nwnk dyv jI qoN hI SurU ho
geI sI[ hQly vYb sweIt au~qy pwTkW dIAW ic`TIAW pVH ky pqw l`gdw hY ik auh ies mwniskqw dy
iSkwr nhIN hn[ Aijhw lyK BwvyN ik`fw vI vDIAw ikEN nw hovy hQly vYb sweIt dI s~Q dy imAwr
nwl myl nhIN KWdw[ iesy krky Aijhy lyK auqy crcw vI auswrU nhIN ho skdI[ lyKk hwly vI iqMn
hzwr swl purwxI soc au~qy inSwnw lw irhw hY jd ik bhuqy pwTk 'pRgqIvwdI' isK soc dy DwrxI
hn[
DMnvwd sihq
gurqyj isMG vYilMgtn inaUzIlYNf |
siqMdr isMG suswxw, iSkwgo |
au~dm A`gy l`CmI ...jy r`b ny eynw vI kMm nhIN krnw qW hor aus nUM rgV ky PoVy auqy
lwauxw hY? - dlbIr
isMG |
10/08/03
MR. Dalbir Singh
BwjI ip~Cly do iqMn lyKW ivc qusIN KwlI l~sI irVk rhy
ho, l~gdw quhwfy kol SbdW dw mswlw mu`k igAw , ies leI c~ly kwrqUs vWg kuJ vI ilKI jw rhy
ho [ qusIN s`cy mhWpurS dI sMgq kro, auh quhwnUM vDIAw qrIky nwl smJw skxgy ik kI r~b AoKy
vyly PoVy qy lox vwlI cIz hY [ swfw is~KW dw qW r~b hI gurU nwnk hY [ kI qusIN ikqy Awpxy
pwlxhwr nUM gwlI qW nhI dy rhy ? zrw socxw !!!!!!!!!
siqMdr isMG suswxw ( iSkwgo ) |
q pwblw, XU ky |
au~dm A`gy l`CmI ...jy r`b ny eynw vI kMm nhIN krnw qW hor aus nUM rgV ky PoVy auqy
lwauxw hY? - dlbIr
isMG |
10/08/03
I read mostly all Mr. Satbir Singh articles, he is very shrewd and
progressive writer. This article is very well composed and he knows of one virtue, and
that is awareness.
Mr.Inder Singh Rana mentioned in his letter, dated .08.08.2003. that it seems to me he
does not believe in GOD.
I think God is not necessary for a religious person, because GOD is an unproved
hypothesis, and a religious person cannot accept anything unproved. He can accept only
that which he feels.
What do we all feel ? the breathing, the heart beat... the existence breaths in and
out, the existence goes on giving us our life every moment.
But we have never looked at the trees, flowers their fragrance and beauty, and we have
never thought that they are divine. They are really the only GOD that exists.
The whole existence is full of GODLINESS. If we are full of religiousness, the whole
existence simultaneously becomes full of Godliness. To me , this is what religion
is.
If religiousness spreads all over the world, religions will fade away, and it will be a
tremendous blessing to humanity when man is simply man, neither Hindu, Sikh, nor
Mohammedan and Christian. These demarcations, these divisions have been the cause of
thousands of wars all through history. If you look back at the history of man, you cannot
resist the temptation to say that we have lived in the past in an insane way. In the name
of Mandir, Guruduara, Masjid and Churches, in the name of ideologies which have no
evidence at all, people have been killing each other. Religions have been parasites
exploiting people,enslaving people, forcing people to believe. And all beliefs are against
intelligence.
In our so called secular Democracy after independence , how Sikhs can forget atrocities
in 1984 by Congress party in Delhi, and recently in Gujarat By Hindus against Muslim ?
There is more corruption in India than anywhere else. This is very strange. this is
Gandian corruption, very religious, very pious, and the people who are doing it are very
trained, disciplined to be servants of people
religion should not be a dead organization, but a kind of religiousness, a quality
which includes truthfulness, sincerity, naturalness, a deep let- go with the cosmos, a
loving heart. a friendliness towards the whole. For these no holy scriptures are needed.
I always found all in one in Mr.Dalbir Singh articles , very knolwedgeful and well
composed . My best wishes to him.
T.Pabla
UK |
ieMdr isMG rwxw |
au~dm A`gy l`CmI ...jy r`b ny eynw vI kMm nhIN krnw qW hor aus nUM rgV ky PoVy auqy
lwauxw hY? - dlbIr
isMG |
08/08/03
i want to know that what does writer think about god? it seems to me
that he does not believe in god.
inder singh rana. |
AmrjIq isMG Kosw |
08/08/03 guirAweI
swihb sRI gurU goibMd isMG jI dy jIvn v`l Jwq mwirAW
iek Aiq mh`qv pUrn JwkI swP ids AwauNdI hY, jdoN auhnW ny AMimRq sMcwr smyN gurU qoN cylw
bnx dw kOqk kIqw[ sMswrI p`Dr aupr iksy BI Drm jW iPrky ivc ies qrWH dI g`l kdy nhIN hoeI
sI, jdoN koeI gurU AwpxI guirAweI Awpxy pMQ prsqIAW ivc qbdIl kr dyvy, Aqy Awpxy Awp nUM
aunHW dw cylw hox dw SryAwm AYlwn kry[ pMj ipAwirAW nUM AMimRq Ckw ky aunHW pwsoN Awp
AMimRq dI dwq pRwpq krn leI iqAwr hoxw, ies qoN v`fw cmqkwr A`j q`k nhIN hoieAw[
ieQoN q`k sI sPr SrIrk (sMswrI) guirAweI dw, ijs leI
AwnMdpur swihb ivc auprokq guxW vwly Kwlsy nUM nwmjd kIqw igAw[ Awqimk (inrMkwrI) guirAweI
Ajy gurU pws hI sI[ gurU gRMQ swihb sMpUrn krky ies smyN qoN qkrIbn s`q swl bwAd nMdyV
ivKy gurU goibMd isMG jI ny pRlok ipAwnw krn qoN pihlW inrMkwrI (Awqimk) guirAweI, rsmI
qOr pur, gurU gRMQ swihb jI nUM AYlwx kIqw, byS`k 'Sbd-gur'U dw isDWq gurU nwnk dyv jI qoN
hI pRc`lq sI[ gurU gRMQ Aqy iesdI qwibAw pMQ[ SrIr gurU-pMQ, AwqmW gurU-gRMQ[ iesy leI
pUjw Akwl dI, dIdwr Kwlsy dw, pRcw (pRcwvw) Sbd dw, is`KI dy pRmu`K isDWqW ivcoN hY[
isrdwr kpUr isMG dy SbdW ivc "Awid simAW qoN swfy
dyS dI pRMprw ivc kQw kQnI nUM doNh BwgW ivc vMifAw hoieAw hY- 1.pRBUsMihqw qy 2.suihdR
sMihqw[ vyd pRBUsMihqw hn Aqy purwx pUrvvqR, bIq cu`kIAW kQw khwxIAW, suihdR-sMihqw hn[
vyd auh hn ijnHW dw ivSw-vsqU iqMn kwl sqX hY, qy ies leI vyd ivcwr pRBU AwigAw dw drzw
r`Kdy hn[ suihdR sMihqw dw idSw-vsqU vwsqivk sqX nhIN hY, ies leI auh im`qr, dosq dy nyk
slwh mSvry dy qu`l hY, ijs nUM suxn ivcwrn nwl lwB pRwpq huMdw hY"[hux iesy ivcwr nUM
smJ ky A`gy c`lo[
dsm-gRMQ swihb nUM guirAweI bwry jo pRSn auTwieAw jWdw
hY, aus bwry hkIkq ieh hY, ik (Kwlsw mihmw Aqy zPrnwmw C`f ky) dsm-gRMQ byS`k AwnMdpur
swihb hI Al`g Al`g poQIAW ivc iqAwr ho cu`kw sI, pr AwnMdpur swihb C`fx smyN iesdw bhuqw
ih`sw srsw ndI dI Bytw cVH igAw[ cMgy BwgW nUM ies gRMQ dIAW poQIAW dy ayuqwry gurU dy
is`KW kol mOjUd sn[iesnUM gurU goibMd isMG jI dy mgroN BweI mnI isMG jI ny poQIAW iek`qR
krky sMpwdnw kIqI[ gurU gRMQ swihb jI ivc isrP Aqy inrol 'inrMkwrI "igAwn-meI"
bwxI' hY[ inrsMdyh dsm gRMQ swihb gurU goibMd isMG jI rcnw hY, pr dsm gRMQ swihb ivc igAwn
meI bwxI dy nwl nwl 'sMswrI "Xu`D-meI" bwxI' Aqy ieiqhws imiQhws imSrq hY[sMswr
dy dUsry Drm gRMQW dy mukwbly isrP gurU gRMQ swihb jI hI iek Aijhw gRMQ hY, ijs ivc
ieiqhws imiQhws dw vrnx nhIN, isvwey sMkyq mwqR qoN[iehI iek kwrn hY ik swry sMswr ivc Agr
gRMQ nUM gurqw pRwpq hY, qW auh isrP gurU gRMQ swihb jI hI hn[guirAweI qRY-kwl s`q nUM hI
pRwpq ho skdI hY, ieiqhws jW imiQhws nUM nhIN[dsm gRMQ bwry Kwlsw pMQ ny jo isDWq bxwieAw
hY, ik dsm gRMQ ivcoN ieMnI bwxI (jwpu, sYXY, cOpeI )qW is`K dw in`qnym hY, ausqoN bwAd
ausdI AwpxI koiSS qy audm hY, koeI ijMnW mrjI pVH lvy, sMswrk (Xu`D-meI)igAwn dy vwDy leI[
sMswr ivc hmySw qbdIlI huMdI rihxI hY, iesy leI gurU jI
dy nwmjd kIqy 'gurU-pMQ' jI nUM hr Fu`kvIN qbdIlI krn dw h`k pRwpq hY[ inrMkwrI (Awqimk)
siQqI srbkwl, srbdyS qbdIl nhIN huMdI[ies krky hI gurU gRMQ swihb jI nUM 'Dur kI bwxI' Aqy
'sdYv s`q' mMinAW jWdw hY[ies ivc koeI qbdIlI ho hI nhIN skdI[hux gurU jI dy vroswey
gurU-pMQ ny jo vI sunihrI AsUl gurU-gRMQ swihb jI nUM mu`K r`K ky GVy hn, aunHW nUM mMnxw
hr guris`K dw Prz hY[Bu`l cu`k leI Kwlsw bKSxhwr hY[
SRI Akwl purK ky bcn isau pRgitE pMQ mhwn[gRMQ-pMQ grU
mwnIeyN qwry skl kulwn[
AmrjIq isMG Kosw |
sqnwm isMG cwhl |
07/08/03 ipAwry s.Bjn isMG jI, sq sRI Akwl jI
AwpjI dw pqr bhuq vDIAW sI[ mYnUM pMjwbI tweIp
nhI krnI AWdI koiSS kr irhW hW jI[ quhwfI hwQI vwlI gl bhuq vDIAw lgI jI[
sqnwm isMG cwhl |
mnjIq isMG cwiqRk, moNtrIAl, kynyfw |
07/08/03 siqkwrXog fw. Bldyv jI[
siq sRI Akwl!
dws Awp jI dw ihrdy dI FUMgweI qoN D~nvwdI hY, Awp jI
ny myrIAwN kuJ rcnwvwN rwNhI mYnUN Suihrd pwTkwN dy ru-bruh kIqw[
mYN ivSyS krky irxI hwN kMvljIq kOr jI dw, ijnHw ny
AwpxI rcnwqmk smIkSw dvwrw kwv-klw idAwN kuJ sUKm rmzw vl myrw iDAwn idvwieAw, auhnw dw hr
suJwa isr m~Qy[
myrw ipCokV ihMdI swihq nwl vDyry irhw hY, ies krky
ihMdI Sbdw dI Brmwr suBwivk hY[
kMvl jI nUM icqR A~Cw l~gw, D~nvwd[ icqRkwrI myrw ik~qw
hY, PotogRwPI myrI audr-pUrqI dw swDn qy kivqw hY myrI rUh dI ^urwk[
myrI kivqw pwTkNw dI crcw dw ivSw bixANw, myry leI ienw
hI kwPI hY[ BivK ivc, kivqw dI lMbweI, ivSY-vsqU, SbdwvlI, kyNdribNdU Aqy iek-swrqw vl ^ws
iDAwn rK~x dw Xqn krwNgw[
pwTkwN dI rcnwqmk Awlocnw dI aUfIk ivc,
mnjIq isMG cwiqRk, moNtrIAl, kynyfw |
siqMdr
isMG jsvwl, nwrvy |
07/08/03
MR. NAYYAR,K. IS DOING A FANTASTIC DIPLOMATIC JOBB BY EXCHANGING THE
VIEWS OF PEOPLE OF BOTH COUNTRIES.NO ARMY CAN HATE OR FIGHT FOR EVER,REASON BEING THAT WE
ALL ARE HUMANS N WE ALL ANALYZE EVERY DAY WHAT GOOD OR BAD WE VE DONE. ALL RELIGIONS TEACH
US TOLERANCE SO HOW COME WE CAN HATE EACH OTHER JUST BECAUSE OF THAT.MR. NAYYAR PLEASE LET
UR PEN FLOW FOR EVER.ITS THE BEST ONE CAN DO FOR HUMANITY.............
JASWAL,SATINDER SINGH
OSLO NORWAY |
jsvMq isMG, AmrIkw |
06/08/03
Gur Fateh
I went through all the articles about American Police written by Satnam Singh Chahal. I
also read the comments of your reader Bhajan Singh California. First of all, I would like
to appreciate the efforts of Satnam Singh Chahal for writing these articles. One can
imagine how much effort he put to write these articles.
Secondly, we should also admit that our social and political envoirement is not equal
to the environment of the United States. There are several honest police officers in the
Punjab Police but they are also helpless to do any kind of Karishma in this dirty
system. We can only pray for the better system. Thank you once again for serving the
community.
Jaswant Singh New York U.S.A |
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